Also, Krishna is actually the only appropriate recipient of our love. Such is the greatness of the path of devotion that everyone is eligible for it, whereas in other paths there are strict criteria for eligibility. Prabhupada boldly offered a more forward-thinking reading of references to varna in Vedic , or Hindu scriptures, arguing that such passages describe a system of natural social stratification intended to help people find the opportunities best suited to them, not to prevent them from making religious or secular progress. He is the deliverer of the most fallen. But it is guidance given to an equal and not a devotee. This is also the result of sins committed in past lives.
Well, Krishna is most beautiful, kind, loving person that one can meet. Madhudvisa dasa The humble sage, by virtue of true knowledge, sees with equal vision a learned and gentle brahmana, a cow, an elephant, a dog and a dog-eater. There was now no turning back. I can't see how anyone can accuse Gita of sexism when it opens the door to moksha to women in defiance of societal opinion. They allow the normal prasad. So we have to keep reading about Krishna in Gita and Bhagavatam. Thanks, Subraman Hare Krishna Subraman No.
This unbelievable density in each square meter has enhanced the power of Krishna. And the fourth Shudras… the servant class! These emotions are usually used in running a family or relationships than to be devotee. The caste system is, indeed, a splendid thing. Taking refuge in Me, women, Vaisyas, Sudras and likewise men who are of socially inferior birth, attain to the highest spiritual goal. Lal Wherever there is Krishna, the Lord of Yoga, and wherever there is Arjun, the wielder of the bow, there will indeed abide, prosperity, victory, glory, and righteousness; this is my firm conviction. Madhudvisa dasa In my opinion all people in India has no such cast system.
It is the point at which you surrender to the process of saddhana bhakti which starts with strictly following the four regulative principles: no illicit sex, no meat eating, no gambling and no intoxication and chanting at least 16 rounds of the Hare Krishna mantra daily. The four types of men have different mentalities and are suited to working in different situations. Note that one can either take many births to become Brahmin or single birth to become, all depends on intensity of spiritual process. Concluding Remarks This piece is based on an examination of every reference to Varna in the 700 verse poem. Contrary to Krishna who sinned, Jesus Christ was sinless! Part 36 of the Bhagavad Gita for Awakening Karma Action—karma—is the basis of our continuing existence within the realm of relativity, even though our essential nature, the Self Atman , transcends all relative modes of being.
I have two questions: 1 How can we know that what our caste is according to our guna? Does it mean everyone is Sudra? If the son is to be accepted as a lawyer he has to study law himself and pass the examinations and be appointed as a lawyer and be actually defending his clients in the courts. Madhudvisa dasa Dear Madhudvisa dasa, I have been trying to learn more about how nurses are viewed and treated by traditional Indian business men here in America. And then he will take us to the spiritual realm where the happiness is beyond our ability to imagine. But actually it is possible for us to follow all of these things, we simply need to practice constantly and become detached as Krishna advises Arjuna. Firstly Thank You for answering the questions and yes your words indeed answer the question. Being a staunch Hindu myself, I found it difficult to reconcile myself to these kind of verses. I'm the Gita itself 5 stars, not exactly this particular book.
Of course the idea that they can become god is maya, an illusion, still they try for it. Jesus constantly warns people not to be deceived Luke 21:8. So the occupations of each caste are clearly described in the 18th chapter of Bhagavad-gita. In Christianity, only those are vile, low and sinful that actually commits sins, whether in deed or thought, and who does not repent and turn away from their sin. He may be a ditch digger, or street sweeper, but if in his mind he is thinking all of these streets really belong to Krishna, and therefore we must keep them very nicely cleaned, then he is more elevated than the most prestigious brahmana. Hare Krishna be always happy Hare Krishna Madhudvisa dasa!! The scriptures do prescribe that a brahmana, in the case of an emergency, can also do the work of a ksatriya or a vaisyas but he will never accept the position of a sudra.
This is a consequence of their good deeds in past lives. Here are the verses — अधर्माभिभवात्कृष्ण प्रदुष्यन्ति कुलस्त्रियः। स्त्रीषु दुष्टासु वार्ष्णेय जायते वर्णसङ्करः।।1. But because we have desired to be self-centered, therefore we have taken our birth in the material world, and instead of becoming servants of God we have become servants of dog, cat, family, nation, etc. Does it mean I am a Sudra? So people who want to become Brahmins must be educated to acquire these qualities. The verse 32 and 33 are linked.
Coming to the verse 9. Of course Krishna can arrange anything if our intention is pure but in general it is difficult for most people. People who are not qualified as brahmanas are posing as brahmanas for example. In many ways it is a simpler philosophy and also a sterner one. Anyone in a lower category can raise himself to a higher state by gaining knowledge and education. देवद्विजगुरुप्राज्ञपूजनं शौचमार्जवम्। ब्रह्मचर्यमहिंसा च शारीरं तप उच्यते।।17. Mother can be a Prostitute, but beside that brothel may live a saintly person.
In the language of sSanskrit they are called Brahmins. Madhudvisa dasa Hare Krishna, Radhey Radhey Prabhu In this mail you have spoke a truth about Indian caste system. Dating the composition of the Gita is a difficult exercise given the multiple layers in it. Also all traders, farmers, artisans come under the category of vaishyas who constantly have thoughts about increasing profits, making more money, earning for their family. So I think you understand that we are all expansions of Krishna and as Krishna is an individual with a personality and with independence all the living entities are also individuals with personality and independence. This is an outcome of the 3000 year old Varna system and the more multifarious Jaati system, which survives into our times.
All of these goals will never satisfy us. Some may have heart broad as sky but they are not a 100% correct either in action or word. Hare Krishna Devang Prabhu, that is what Srila Prabhupada is teaching in his books. First his birth is as a common man and next birth is a man who thinks works and lives like a brahmin. Punya Yonis are for people who have progressed. Because Hinduism Sanatana Dharma is such an ancient and integrated faith and way of life, one must be willing to peel back thousands of years of History, tradition, culture, and perspectives in order to glean the foundation of this social system that has come to be so reviled that its very usage is now illegal in modern India. How you can simply say that because I'm born in such and such family, therefore I have also the same thing.